KJV discussion 20251005

KJV discussion 20251005

Overview

This talk addresses a common YouTube claim that it is harder to be saved the older you get and challenges that reading from the KJV. The speaker argues that Proverbs 8:17 speaks about wisdom and blessings, not the terms of eternal salvation. In contrast, Scripture shows people saved late in life (e.g., the thief on the cross), underscoring that salvation is always by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.

Summary

• Misused proverb: Some preachers claim Proverbs 8:17 proves salvation becomes harder as one ages. The discussion asserts this is a misuse: the chapter personifies Wisdom and promises practical blessing to those who seek wisdom early—not a sliding scale for eternal salvation.
• KJV framing: The Bible presents salvation as a free gift—“Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved.” The presence of conversions late in life (e.g., the thief on the cross) contradicts the “harder later” idea.
• Concern about false teachers: The speaker warns of “fake faith-alone” teachers who subtly reintroduce works, discipline, or wisdom-accrual as if they were prerequisites for salvation. Such teaching is critiqued as another gospel masked as faith alone.

Key Scripture (KJV)

I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me. — Proverbs 8:17 (KJV)

Transcript

(0:05 - 5:17)
There is a fake preaching here on youtube in the faith alone king james bible movement which is that it is easier to get saved early in life and get harder as older as you get. and it is based on a proverb where it says I love them that love me and those that seek me early shall find me and this verse is obviously true but what they are talking about here is wisdom I think it says if you go up a bit here it says counsel is mine and sound wisdom I am understanding and have strength I wisdom it says I wisdom dwell with prudence so this is wisdom this is not talking about the gospel or salvation it is talking about wisdom and it is true that if you live a sinful life you will get problems from that and that is why it says I love them that love me and those that seek me early shall find me so if you live a righteous life from birth and do the right things then that can help you and that can escalate into more strength, righteousness, wisdom and so on it can just escalate into a good fruit for you, blessings basically it is about blessings I love them that love me and those that seek me early shall find me it is about wisdom and blessings and there are some fake bible teachers here on youtube who claim that this is about eternal salvation and it is not because there are old people being saved in the bible and salvation is easy believe on the lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved so it is not like you have to repent of your sins and it is not like you have to you can be a sinner and be saved there is a thief on the cross it is very late in his life and he is in a very hard situation there and he is still being saved so there is a heresy among the wicked fake bible teachers here on youtube the fake faith alone bible teachers that have infiltrated basically a catholic orthodox kind of grain that goes through them I don't know but it seems like they are not saved in a moment these people by grace through faith in Christ alone but rather that they are saved by some kind of righteous living gaining wisdom with time and so getting more revelation and so on so it is a different gospel they have and they are probably catholics or orthodox christians who want to have power over the true believers as it talks about in the trail of blood which is a book written the trail of blood you see it in history in real short history you can find this how the catholics and the orthodox have been persecuting the true christians these fake christians these heretically fake christians who really have another gospel but they adopt this faith alone gospel because they want power over the real christians they are often sitting as powerful pastors they want to be in charge of salvation and so on so that's what I want to say

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